An interview with former Crystal Palace and Aston Villa midfielder Andy Gray, by Callum McFadden for WFi.
Before your breakthrough at Crystal Palace, you gained valuable experience playing in non-league football. Can you walk talk to me through that period in your career, and how did it help shape you as a player?
“Yeah, I think I was with Corinthian Casuals for about two seasons. In the second season, after around 15 games, Crystal Palace signed me.”
When you first joined Crystal Palace under Steve Coppell, what was the atmosphere like at the club? Palace had a vibrant and exciting squad during the 80s—how did it feel to be part of that environment?
“Yeah, it was basically a rebuilding phase for the club. We had a few older players still around from earlier years. They were on the contracts they had, but the club wanted to move them on due to financial constraints. Palace was really looking to bring in younger, hungry players.”
As the top scorer in the 1985-86 season, how do you reflect on your overall experience during your first spell at Crystal Palace? What stands out to you most from that period in your career?
“It was a great experience. It was a learning curve, jumping from non-league to the professional level, even though I’d trained in the pro game from ages 11 to 16 before getting released. I fought my way back in, and when the opportunity came, I seized it with both hands.”
Your next move was to Aston Villa. Could you share how that transfer came about and reflect on your time at the club? What were the key moments or experiences that stood out from your spell there?
“Yeah, it was a strange scenario getting that transfer. Villa had some great players.”
“The camaraderie was incredible, both on and off the pitch. On Fridays, before games, we’d all gather in the captain’s room at the hotel, whether for home or away games. Each of us would have one can of Budweiser, then head back to our rooms to prepare for the match. It’s unheard of today, but it worked for us.”
After your time at Villa, you had a brief stint at QPR before returning to Palace. How much did that mean to you, especially given your strong connection to the club?
“It meant a lot. Interestingly, when Palace got promoted against Blackburn, I was at the game, but I didn’t watch it—I was in the car park. After the game, I went inside and talked to some of the players, like Mark Bright and Ian Wright. That night, they had a player of the year event, and Steve Coppell asked me if I wanted to come back.
“The following Monday, I went to QPR and told them I wanted to go back to Crystal Palace.”
When you returned, Ian Wright and Mark Bright played crucial roles in that famous FA Cup run. What are your memories of the semi-final against Liverpool?
“It was one of those games where everything we tried worked, even though we were down 1-0 and then 2-1. We believed we were stronger than them that day, despite them having beaten us 9-0 a few months earlier. It was an incredible match, and people are still talking about it 30 years later.”
His victory over Liverpool secured a place in the FA Cup final against Manchester United, with the first match ending in a draw and leading to a replay. How do you reflect on that final and its outcome? Ian Wright has often mentioned that his one regret, despite an extraordinary career, was not winning that trophy with Palace—do you share a similar sentiment?
“To be honest, we should have won the first game. When the replay came around, it just didn’t have the same energy. It felt different, not as hyped. It was a real disappointment, and yeah, United won the Cup Looking back, I think the semi-final felt more like the final for us.”
On the subject of Ian Wright, while many focus on his success at Arsenal, what was he like as a player during his years at Crystal Palace? How did he develop and stand out during that time?
“He was an exceptional player, and honestly, he needed that move to play alongside even better players. He was brilliant at Palace, though. That was his platform, and from there, he went on to do great things.”
At Palace in their second spell, the club pushed Liverpool and Arsenal into the old First Division, finishing third. For Palace now, finishing third seems almost unimaginable. How do you reflect on that season?
“Yeah, I think that was our second season in the First Division, and we were a really strong side. Back then, though, finishing third didn’t really get you any recognition—only the winners were remembered. Nowadays, even finishing seventh, you get a prize. I prefer how it was in my day.”
Your form at club level earned you a call-up to the England squad, and you got a cap against Poland. How do you reflect on your England experience?
“Yeah, it was a dream come true, but in some ways, it was the worst thing that could’ve happened to me. I was playing really well that season, one of the top midfielders in the country. But looking back, I think I was picked too early. If I had a few more seasons under my belt, I might have handled it better.”
Does it frustrate you that you only earned one cap, considering how well you were playing at the time?
“No, not really. When the opportunity comes, you have to take it, and I didn’t. But leading up to that, my form was as good as anyone’s. In the end, whether it’s one cap or 20, you’ go still represent your country.”
After that, you moved to Tottenham. How do you reflect on your time there?
“To be honest, my best football was always at Crystal Palace. I shouldn’t have left, but back then, it wasn’t about money—it was about respect.”
You also played in Scotland with Falkirk, reaching a Scottish Cup final. How did you find Scottish football?
“It was different—more basic, with less money, but there were good characters. I owe a lot to Alex Totten and John Lambie, who treated me well. I didn’t get along with Eamonn Bannon, though. He was a tough disciplinarian, which didn’t work for me. When Totten took over, things improved, and we got to the Cup final. They let me return to England afterwards, as promised.”
You finished your career after stints at Bury and Millwall. How did you handle retirement? Was it difficult to adjust?
“Not at all. I’m old school, and we didn’t make big money back then, so when it’s time, it’s time. I wasn’t a heavy drinker, so the transition wasn’t hard. It’s just another part of life.”
In 2005, you were voted into Palace’s Centenary XI. That’s quite the honour, especially given how money couldn’t buy such recognition back then. How did that feel?
“Yeah, it’s something to look back on proudly. I had some great times there, and being part of a club’s history like that is very special.”